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Friday, September 26, 2008

ACLU Interview Same-Sex Education

ACLU BLOGGER CALL ON SEX-SEGREGATED EDUCATION - Share on Ovi

The ACLU is suing a school in Kentucky which divided its middle school math students by gender. The girls whizzed by the boys so they stopped teaching the girls.

I'm torn on gender-divisions in public schools, as you'll hear in the podcast.

I'd love to hear what you have to say after listening to this energized conversation.

Other participants on the call include Veronica from Viva La Feminista Jaelithe Judy from The The State of Discontent and Momocrats, Catherine Morgan from The Political Voices of Women and Sarah from Goon Squad and an editor from BlogHer and myself, and Stephanie from LawyerMama Tracee Sioux from Empowering Girls: So Sioux Me,


Cynthia Samuels from Don't Gel Too Soon and 50 Something Moms organized and moderated the call

Rosalind Chait Barnet, Senior Scientist, Women’s Studies Research Center, and Executive Director, Community, Families & Work Program, Brandeis University was on the call to address the science behind gender segregation.

Emily J. Martin is the Deputy Director of the American Civil Liberties Union Women's Rights Project and shares the ACLU's perspective on how gender segregation is currently being practiced in public schools.

Empowering Girls: Girls-Only Public School

Please let me know what you think after you listen to the call.

Please Leave Comments.

4 comments:

Sarah, Goon Squad Sarah said...

I'm so glad you wrote about our call. It was very enlightening for me. I had no idea that this was such a big issue.

Tracee said...

Sarah, I'm so glad you wrote in, it was a little difficult to get everyone's contact info on the call so I didn't remember Good Squad. I've added the link now though.

I had read that a few schools were doing it, but wasn't sure how many or how people would respond.

Sarah, Goon Squad Sarah said...

The whole thing just makes me nervous. I can completely see the upside of single sex schools (or classrooms) but I fear that the gender stereotypes could overwhelm the curriculum.

I've been thinking about the call and how there were so many intelligent, well-educated women on that conference call and how we were all taught in mixed gender classrooms. It seems to have worked in the past.

I think al girl or all boy private schools are fine if that is what the family has chosen. It is the idea of mandatory public schools doing this that makes me ill at ease.

Tracee said...

I'm curious to know if the methods were different in the two math classes. In the Kentucky case, the girls' math class whizzed by the boys' - it could be that the "girl" method of teaching math is be more effective.

In which case - would/did the boys respond differently?

The interesting part, for me, is not "can they abuse gender segregation and hold a gender back?" Duh, of course they can. Someone can abuse any situation there is. Period.

But, maybe the gender experiments are telling us stuff about teaching methods. Maybe the way they teach math is TIRED - for everyone.

Maybe it's not just boys who need to get up and move and will learn better that way - maybe it's everyone.

News flash - the girls may be willing to sit still for longer because they're highly trained through generations of passivity - but it's not FUN for them either.

I think there are gender issues to explore in education.

I want to know more.

Friday, September 26, 2008

ACLU Interview Same-Sex Education

ACLU BLOGGER CALL ON SEX-SEGREGATED EDUCATION - Share on Ovi

The ACLU is suing a school in Kentucky which divided its middle school math students by gender. The girls whizzed by the boys so they stopped teaching the girls.

I'm torn on gender-divisions in public schools, as you'll hear in the podcast.

I'd love to hear what you have to say after listening to this energized conversation.

Other participants on the call include Veronica from Viva La Feminista Jaelithe Judy from The The State of Discontent and Momocrats, Catherine Morgan from The Political Voices of Women and Sarah from Goon Squad and an editor from BlogHer and myself, and Stephanie from LawyerMama Tracee Sioux from Empowering Girls: So Sioux Me,


Cynthia Samuels from Don't Gel Too Soon and 50 Something Moms organized and moderated the call

Rosalind Chait Barnet, Senior Scientist, Women’s Studies Research Center, and Executive Director, Community, Families & Work Program, Brandeis University was on the call to address the science behind gender segregation.

Emily J. Martin is the Deputy Director of the American Civil Liberties Union Women's Rights Project and shares the ACLU's perspective on how gender segregation is currently being practiced in public schools.

Empowering Girls: Girls-Only Public School

Please let me know what you think after you listen to the call.

Please Leave Comments.

4 comments:

Sarah, Goon Squad Sarah said...

I'm so glad you wrote about our call. It was very enlightening for me. I had no idea that this was such a big issue.

Tracee said...

Sarah, I'm so glad you wrote in, it was a little difficult to get everyone's contact info on the call so I didn't remember Good Squad. I've added the link now though.

I had read that a few schools were doing it, but wasn't sure how many or how people would respond.

Sarah, Goon Squad Sarah said...

The whole thing just makes me nervous. I can completely see the upside of single sex schools (or classrooms) but I fear that the gender stereotypes could overwhelm the curriculum.

I've been thinking about the call and how there were so many intelligent, well-educated women on that conference call and how we were all taught in mixed gender classrooms. It seems to have worked in the past.

I think al girl or all boy private schools are fine if that is what the family has chosen. It is the idea of mandatory public schools doing this that makes me ill at ease.

Tracee said...

I'm curious to know if the methods were different in the two math classes. In the Kentucky case, the girls' math class whizzed by the boys' - it could be that the "girl" method of teaching math is be more effective.

In which case - would/did the boys respond differently?

The interesting part, for me, is not "can they abuse gender segregation and hold a gender back?" Duh, of course they can. Someone can abuse any situation there is. Period.

But, maybe the gender experiments are telling us stuff about teaching methods. Maybe the way they teach math is TIRED - for everyone.

Maybe it's not just boys who need to get up and move and will learn better that way - maybe it's everyone.

News flash - the girls may be willing to sit still for longer because they're highly trained through generations of passivity - but it's not FUN for them either.

I think there are gender issues to explore in education.

I want to know more.