I have been reading Mother Daughter Wisdom and the author talks a lot about how our experiences manifest themselves as ailments.

I think it is a very empowering idea. We can heal ourselves. We don't need to become prescription drug addicts if we are willing to put in the effort to root out the problem.

That's Christian Northrup and her daughter right?

Yes, I too love her ideas about how our bodies are always speaking to us.

Did you see her on Oprah when she told that woman her stomach growth was telling her something and she had an epiphany about her bad relationship/job?

I've tried the prescription drug route - I found it completely ineffective.

The pain body idea gives us so much more power than sitting in a Dr. office trying to have our experience validated and cured.

I think there are amazing mind-body-spirit connections, and I have seen and felt how getting emotionally healthy can help you get physically healthy. They are tied together in so many ways.

But I always feel the need to qualify things like this by saying that negativity etc might be part of a chronic illness, but it might not.

I think we have to be careful not to take it too far and start blaming patients - like "oh you have breast cancer, you must have been bottling up your feelings." We know that there is a genetic marker for breast cancer and other factors that have nothing to do with how much you like yourself or how spiritually connected you are.

I do think in 100 years, people are going to look back at our medical treatment and shake their heads at how unholistic it is.

Tolle does qualify that our body has real reasons for feeling pain and fear - cut off your leg, don't meditate and expect the pain to go away - seek medical attention and get it reattached. Angry dog running at you and there is fear - don't try to dissolve the fear in your pain body - RUN.

There are many, many hopeful stories about breast cancer, as in your example, of patients who have healed themselves spiritually and emotionally and even medical doctors will site positive attitude, spiritual belief and connection with others as the most significant factors in survival and pain management.

It's so fascinating to me.

Yes, it is Christine Northrup.

I also look at diet and exercise and other lifestyle choices when it comes to health. There is rarely a magic pill. :)

I used to believe in the magic pill. But, like you I've found that diet, exercise, natural remedies are often more effective than pills. In some cases, of course, you need a pill - but yoga did more for by back pain than all the pills combined and it makes my head clearer instead of cloudy.

I knew a lady in one of my previous churches whose body was horribly twisted because of her intense long-lasting bitterness and unforgiveness. Her son had been a POW in Vietnam, and she'd never been able to let go of it. My impression of the son was that he HAD been able to let go and forgive.

I don't know about "Pain body," but I know there is a connection between our attitude and our bodies (One of the weaknesses of modern - i.e., the stream coming from Descartes - philosophy has been a strong mind-body dualism. Nope.

I have been reading Mother Daughter Wisdom and the author talks a lot about how our experiences manifest themselves as ailments.

I think it is a very empowering idea. We can heal ourselves. We don't need to become prescription drug addicts if we are willing to put in the effort to root out the problem.

That's Christian Northrup and her daughter right?

Yes, I too love her ideas about how our bodies are always speaking to us.

Did you see her on Oprah when she told that woman her stomach growth was telling her something and she had an epiphany about her bad relationship/job?

I've tried the prescription drug route - I found it completely ineffective.

The pain body idea gives us so much more power than sitting in a Dr. office trying to have our experience validated and cured.

I think there are amazing mind-body-spirit connections, and I have seen and felt how getting emotionally healthy can help you get physically healthy. They are tied together in so many ways.

But I always feel the need to qualify things like this by saying that negativity etc might be part of a chronic illness, but it might not.

I think we have to be careful not to take it too far and start blaming patients - like "oh you have breast cancer, you must have been bottling up your feelings." We know that there is a genetic marker for breast cancer and other factors that have nothing to do with how much you like yourself or how spiritually connected you are.

I do think in 100 years, people are going to look back at our medical treatment and shake their heads at how unholistic it is.

Tolle does qualify that our body has real reasons for feeling pain and fear - cut off your leg, don't meditate and expect the pain to go away - seek medical attention and get it reattached. Angry dog running at you and there is fear - don't try to dissolve the fear in your pain body - RUN.

There are many, many hopeful stories about breast cancer, as in your example, of patients who have healed themselves spiritually and emotionally and even medical doctors will site positive attitude, spiritual belief and connection with others as the most significant factors in survival and pain management.

It's so fascinating to me.

Yes, it is Christine Northrup.

I also look at diet and exercise and other lifestyle choices when it comes to health. There is rarely a magic pill. :)

I used to believe in the magic pill. But, like you I've found that diet, exercise, natural remedies are often more effective than pills. In some cases, of course, you need a pill - but yoga did more for by back pain than all the pills combined and it makes my head clearer instead of cloudy.

I knew a lady in one of my previous churches whose body was horribly twisted because of her intense long-lasting bitterness and unforgiveness. Her son had been a POW in Vietnam, and she'd never been able to let go of it. My impression of the son was that he HAD been able to let go and forgive.

I don't know about "Pain body," but I know there is a connection between our attitude and our bodies (One of the weaknesses of modern - i.e., the stream coming from Descartes - philosophy has been a strong mind-body dualism. Nope.