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Friday, August 22, 2008

The Supergirl Dilemma, Girls Inc. Study

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I was waiting in the Drs. office with Ainsley analyzing a copy of Girls Inc.'s The Supergirl Dilemma. A report about what kind of stereotypes girls are still dealing with in today's world and the kinds of pressures it puts on them to measure up.

Reading the answers to the survey I figured what I really wanted to know is how my own daughter will answer these questions. (Also, it distracted her from the incessant complaining about waiting, which was driving me bonkers.)

So I read the quiz aloud to her:

* People think that girls care a lot about shopping? True or False?

True.

Do you like that it's true?

Yeah.

* Girls are under a lot of pressure to dress the right way?

True

Do you like that it's true.

Yeah.

* People don't think girls are good leaders?

False.

* People think girls don't know how to take care of their own money?

False

* Teachers think it's not important for girls to be good at math?

False.

The next day, I heard Ainsley holding court with her friends:

* People think that girls care a lot about shopping? True or False?

Oh, that's True! That's so true!

Do you like that it's true?

Yeah, I guess so.

What I learned about Ainsley, and her friends, is that she's pretty typical. In spite of all my going on about empowering girls she's a typical American girl.

We're making progress in major areas like math and science and money and leadership, according to the report.

Simultaneously, girls are feeling MORE pressure to look perfect and behave perfect and be good at everything.

The areas where it seemed we're not making as much progress are areas where the issues become complex and nuanced.

Questions like, Getting married and having children is the most important thing.
Well, what's so wrong with marriage and children? We wanted to know? Nothing. It's the "most important thing" part that throws the question off.

As a married woman I would put my family (husband and children) as my "most important thing" even though my career is pretty dang important. But then her father would answer the same way.

Ainsley knows that.

The question throws us both off kilter. What's progress? That it becomes not the most important thing? Or that she's not supposed to think it's the most important thing when she's 6 or 16?

It's a core value, is it not? One we don't necessarily want to outright discard.

I think a more informative question, for me, is whether it's still the ONLY thing that's important.

To which, hopefully my daughter would say no. While my mother and grandmother would say yes. While I say, Intellectually I know it's not, but it's a serious challenge for me to fight the SAHM social gravity & guilt that sucks me in, especially when I talk to my mother. But, I'm working on it.

That's the kind of generational gender progress I'm looking to achieve.

Other questions that throw us off kilter are about the ones about being kind and caring.

Ideally, we're teaching all our kids to be kind and caring and we're bringing the boys UP to the level we expect from girls. Not the other way around.

If you answer false to the question it feels like you're saying you want girls to be mean and uncaring. Which we know isn't what we want.

Girls should speak softly and not cause trouble is another question my daughter and I felt conflicted about.

No they shouldn't have to speak softly all the time. I don't. She doesn't. A little more soft-talking and a little less yelling wouldn't kill either one of us.

But no one should "cause trouble", is how we both felt like answering.

I get the question - because I have 2 decades of feminist theory behind me and I've been told I'm "causing trouble" for verbalizing the same concerns any man would have plenty of times - but the question shouldn't be designed for me.

They're designed for children who get their name and a check on the board for "causing trouble." One major focus of childhood is to devise ways to stay out of trouble, find your way out of trouble you've gotten into, or to push the envelope just enough to stay out of major trouble.

Basically I thought the implications of the question was out of context for children.

That said, I found the study enlightening. It tied together a pervasive feminine theme that needs to be stamped out immediately.

Find out what the theme is in Monday's post.
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6 comments:

cmae said...

I'm not sure that stereotypes are as problematic for me personally as the feeling I get that our society looks down upon female stereotypes and glorifies male stereotypes. Would a study about the kinds of stereotypes boys still deal with and the kinds of pressures they put on them to measure up make much press? I'm not sure. I mean, I really don't know, but I've never heard of one. I've also never sought one out. Then again, I've never sought out studies about female stereotypes but I have heard about them.

Tracee said...

Boys get press.

I've written about my son playing with dolls and the stereotype around nurturing and caring here: http://www.blogfabulous.com/boys-and-dolls/

Also there's a lot of press surrounding boys' lack of reading readiness and their tendency to be diagnosed ADD for not wanting to sit still in class for 6 hours straight. Some are pushing for same gender schools as in this story: http://traceesioux.blogspot.com/2008/03/girls-only-public-school.html

Also there is the way we're making boys believe their role is to consume girls - as in this etrade commercial where an infant boy looks at a "bad girl" on his blackberry, presumably pornography, while making a big powerful international financial trade. The consumer (boy)/consumed (girl) dynamic can never lead to a healthy future relationship: http://traceesioux.blogspot.com/2008/06/empowering-girls-sexualization-of.html

The stereotypes girls are under generally have an equally damaging opposing stereotype that boys are under.

Marta Sáenz de Aguilera said...

I don't think tomboyism or things like it are the answer to sexism - i dont want to be a boy - i just don't want to be a traditional girl

Yaya said...

I'm glad you're 'causing trouble'! More girls need to stir things up a bit!
I love the conversations your daughter has w/ her friends!

cmae said...

Interesting thoughts. Thanks for your response to my comment. I look forward to reading your blog more.

Tracee said...

Marta, I think the idea is to expand the traditional girl roles to include more activities and a less rigid idea of what girls do.

I don't think there's anything wrong with tomboyism - nor do we want to criminalize girlyness.

The idea is not to present it as an Either-Or choice.

Friday, August 22, 2008

The Supergirl Dilemma, Girls Inc. Study

girlsinc1.jpg

I was waiting in the Drs. office with Ainsley analyzing a copy of Girls Inc.'s The Supergirl Dilemma. A report about what kind of stereotypes girls are still dealing with in today's world and the kinds of pressures it puts on them to measure up.

Reading the answers to the survey I figured what I really wanted to know is how my own daughter will answer these questions. (Also, it distracted her from the incessant complaining about waiting, which was driving me bonkers.)

So I read the quiz aloud to her:

* People think that girls care a lot about shopping? True or False?

True.

Do you like that it's true?

Yeah.

* Girls are under a lot of pressure to dress the right way?

True

Do you like that it's true.

Yeah.

* People don't think girls are good leaders?

False.

* People think girls don't know how to take care of their own money?

False

* Teachers think it's not important for girls to be good at math?

False.

The next day, I heard Ainsley holding court with her friends:

* People think that girls care a lot about shopping? True or False?

Oh, that's True! That's so true!

Do you like that it's true?

Yeah, I guess so.

What I learned about Ainsley, and her friends, is that she's pretty typical. In spite of all my going on about empowering girls she's a typical American girl.

We're making progress in major areas like math and science and money and leadership, according to the report.

Simultaneously, girls are feeling MORE pressure to look perfect and behave perfect and be good at everything.

The areas where it seemed we're not making as much progress are areas where the issues become complex and nuanced.

Questions like, Getting married and having children is the most important thing.
Well, what's so wrong with marriage and children? We wanted to know? Nothing. It's the "most important thing" part that throws the question off.

As a married woman I would put my family (husband and children) as my "most important thing" even though my career is pretty dang important. But then her father would answer the same way.

Ainsley knows that.

The question throws us both off kilter. What's progress? That it becomes not the most important thing? Or that she's not supposed to think it's the most important thing when she's 6 or 16?

It's a core value, is it not? One we don't necessarily want to outright discard.

I think a more informative question, for me, is whether it's still the ONLY thing that's important.

To which, hopefully my daughter would say no. While my mother and grandmother would say yes. While I say, Intellectually I know it's not, but it's a serious challenge for me to fight the SAHM social gravity & guilt that sucks me in, especially when I talk to my mother. But, I'm working on it.

That's the kind of generational gender progress I'm looking to achieve.

Other questions that throw us off kilter are about the ones about being kind and caring.

Ideally, we're teaching all our kids to be kind and caring and we're bringing the boys UP to the level we expect from girls. Not the other way around.

If you answer false to the question it feels like you're saying you want girls to be mean and uncaring. Which we know isn't what we want.

Girls should speak softly and not cause trouble is another question my daughter and I felt conflicted about.

No they shouldn't have to speak softly all the time. I don't. She doesn't. A little more soft-talking and a little less yelling wouldn't kill either one of us.

But no one should "cause trouble", is how we both felt like answering.

I get the question - because I have 2 decades of feminist theory behind me and I've been told I'm "causing trouble" for verbalizing the same concerns any man would have plenty of times - but the question shouldn't be designed for me.

They're designed for children who get their name and a check on the board for "causing trouble." One major focus of childhood is to devise ways to stay out of trouble, find your way out of trouble you've gotten into, or to push the envelope just enough to stay out of major trouble.

Basically I thought the implications of the question was out of context for children.

That said, I found the study enlightening. It tied together a pervasive feminine theme that needs to be stamped out immediately.

Find out what the theme is in Monday's post.
Subscribe to my RSS feed, or go up top and get an email subscription - because you don't want to miss it.

6 comments:

cmae said...

I'm not sure that stereotypes are as problematic for me personally as the feeling I get that our society looks down upon female stereotypes and glorifies male stereotypes. Would a study about the kinds of stereotypes boys still deal with and the kinds of pressures they put on them to measure up make much press? I'm not sure. I mean, I really don't know, but I've never heard of one. I've also never sought one out. Then again, I've never sought out studies about female stereotypes but I have heard about them.

Tracee said...

Boys get press.

I've written about my son playing with dolls and the stereotype around nurturing and caring here: http://www.blogfabulous.com/boys-and-dolls/

Also there's a lot of press surrounding boys' lack of reading readiness and their tendency to be diagnosed ADD for not wanting to sit still in class for 6 hours straight. Some are pushing for same gender schools as in this story: http://traceesioux.blogspot.com/2008/03/girls-only-public-school.html

Also there is the way we're making boys believe their role is to consume girls - as in this etrade commercial where an infant boy looks at a "bad girl" on his blackberry, presumably pornography, while making a big powerful international financial trade. The consumer (boy)/consumed (girl) dynamic can never lead to a healthy future relationship: http://traceesioux.blogspot.com/2008/06/empowering-girls-sexualization-of.html

The stereotypes girls are under generally have an equally damaging opposing stereotype that boys are under.

Marta Sáenz de Aguilera said...

I don't think tomboyism or things like it are the answer to sexism - i dont want to be a boy - i just don't want to be a traditional girl

Yaya said...

I'm glad you're 'causing trouble'! More girls need to stir things up a bit!
I love the conversations your daughter has w/ her friends!

cmae said...

Interesting thoughts. Thanks for your response to my comment. I look forward to reading your blog more.

Tracee said...

Marta, I think the idea is to expand the traditional girl roles to include more activities and a less rigid idea of what girls do.

I don't think there's anything wrong with tomboyism - nor do we want to criminalize girlyness.

The idea is not to present it as an Either-Or choice.